In this podcast, Kushal speaks with veteran Canadian journalist Terry Milewski about the India-Canada relations and the possible solutions to solve the current stand off between the two nations.
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The key idea of the video is that India and Canada need to address their domestic issues, such as terrorism glorification and gang problems, in order to improve their relationship and move forward amidst tensions.
Concerns about Canadian Response and Actions
🤔 Canada’s portrayal of Jaspal Atwal as an innocent victim raises questions about their attempt to deny his past as a goon and terrorist.
🇨🇦 Canada should draw a line and make the incitement of violence and the glorification of terrorism a criminal offense, similar to what other countries have done.
💣 Correcting Canadian law to address the issue of promoting individuals involved in violent acts as martyrs would be a significant step in confronting the Kalistanis and showing seriousness in resolving the tensions.
💔 It is concerning that young children are being taught to view the Air India bombers as heroes, without considering the impact on the victims’ families.
😡 The speaker criticizes the lack of empathy in the reaction to the death of a person, highlighting the insensitivity towards human life.
💣 The issuing of threats by Pannu, including targeting Canadian Hindus and referring to the ICC Cricket World Cup match as the “world terror cup,” adds to the tensions between India and Canada.
🇮🇳 Panoon’s propaganda includes burning the Indian flag, urging soldiers to desert the Indian army and fight for China, and encouraging Sikhs to seize Delhi Airport.
🤔 Canadian politicians remain silent on posters glorifying the Air India bomber and other killers, raising questions about their stance on freedom of speech and condemnation of such activities.
💥 It is suggested that Canada should make the endorsement of terror, incitement of violence, and glorification of terrorists and terrorism illegal, demonstrating their commitment to combating these issues and showing India that they understand the gravity of the situation.
🇬🇧 The Bloom review in the UK highlighted the problem of mainstream Sikhs being bullied and intimidated by extremists, who try to force them to adopt an independent Palestine agenda, causing distress to individuals and families, even within the advanced Sikh community in Britain.
Need for Collaboration and Solutions
🤝 Instead of cooperating, both India and Canada should be working together through joint operations between the RCMP and Punjab police to address the consistent problem of gang violence.
⚖️ It’s time for a pushback against this aggression, and there is a need for ideas and solutions to address this issue.
😔 It saddens me to see the decline in Indo-Canadian government relations, as both countries could benefit immensely from a trade deal and Indian students have a future in Canada.
00:00 🇮🇳 The speaker believes Trudeau’s accusations against India lack evidence and questions the motive behind India’s alleged involvement in the deaths of Khalistani figures, while also highlighting Canada’s need to address its gang problem.
1.1 Justin Trudeau’s statement in the House of Commons has sparked tensions between India and Canada, leading to discussions with Canadian journalist Terry Mileski to address the issue.
1.2 The speaker believes that the accusations made by the Canadian Prime Minister regarding the Indian government’s involvement in the deaths of three Khalistani figures are baseless and lack evidence.
1.3 The speaker discusses the possibility of a contract killing at a temple in Surrey, Canada, and expresses disbelief that the Indian government would be involved, as it would damage the relationship between the two countries.
1.4 The speaker questions the motive and logic behind the Indian government’s alleged involvement in the assassination of a Sikh leader in Canada, as it seems inconceivable and illogical to risk their reputation for someone relatively unknown.
1.5 Canada’s portrayal of Niger as an innocent victim denies the evidence of his criminal activities, and Canada needs to acknowledge and address its gang problem.
1.6 The speaker discusses the tensions between India and Canada, stating that while the accused individual may not have directly threatened Canada, his involvement in pro-terrorist propaganda, including advocating for the assassination of public officials, should be taken seriously by both sides.
09:39 🇮🇳 🇨🇦 Canada should criminalize the glorification of terrorism to address toxic propaganda, while India and Canada need to address their domestic issues to move forward amidst tensions.
2.1 Canada needs to draw a line between freedom of speech and incitement of violence, by implementing legislation that criminalizes the glorification of terrorism, in order to address the toxic propaganda that undermines the next generation and poisons the minds of children.
2.2 Canadian law has loopholes regarding hate speech against identifiable groups, and addressing these loopholes would be a step towards confronting the issue of Kalistanis and preventing the promotion of controversial figures in Sikh youth culture.
2.3 Protests in India have highlighted the frustration of Indians towards Canada’s failure to address the Jatt Khalistani movement, which has been ongoing for a long time and involves threats and potential harm to individuals, leading to a need for understanding and action.
2.4 The speaker discusses the issue of poisoning the minds of children with extremist ideologies, using the example of a young girl who referred to the Air India bombers as heroes, highlighting the need to combat misinformation and rewrite history, while also acknowledging the communication issues and lack of evidence in the India-Canada tensions.
2.5 India and Canada’s extradition treaty has been rendered ineffective due to bureaucratic obstacles, lobbying, and concerns over human rights abuses in Indian prisons, leading to reluctance in extraditing fugitives and causing suffering for Punjabis in both countries.
2.6 Both India and Canada need to address their domestic problems in order to move forward and the current tensions may serve as a catalyst for this change.
25:49 🔍 The lack of transparency and information sharing between India and Canada is damaging their relationship, and Trudeau should address the tensions by presenting selected evidence to the public.
3.1 The speaker expresses frustration about only being able to receive open source briefings from CSIS and discusses the need for reform in order for them to share more concrete information.
3.2 The speaker discusses the issue of the Canadian premier not being given sufficient information about the tensions between India and Canada, expressing disappointment with the lack of transparency in the Canadian system.
3.3 Trudeau’s lack of security clearance is the issue, but it is possible for him to present selected evidence to the public to address the tensions between India and Canada.
3.4 The Canadian government’s refusal to reveal information regarding the investigation into an Indian diplomat’s expulsion is damaging the relationship between the two countries and should be reconsidered.
3.5 The speaker questions the credibility of a statement made by a source regarding tensions between India and Canada, and suggests that a news article about a Sikh leader’s killing may be part of a coordinated attack by a gang.
3.6 India and Indian bureaucracy are known for being frugal and not wasting resources, such as bullets.
34:16 🔍 The speaker questions the lack of progress in solving the case and suggests that tensions between India and Canada may be due to gang wars, urging Trudeau to reveal evidence and criticizing both countries for not cooperating.
4.1 The speaker questions why no arrests have been made in the elaborate operation involving two cars and the lack of progress in solving the case, suggesting that if Prime Minister Trudeau cannot produce evidence, it could be detrimental to his position, while also implying that Prime Minister Modi may know the evidence and could potentially discredit Trudeau if he wanted to.
4.2 Modi is not speaking up against Canada’s actions, and the speaker criticizes the Indian government and Hinduism without receiving threats, while Canada has not shared any evidence with India.
4.3 The speaker suggests that the tensions between India and Canada may be due to an international gang war involving Indian and Punjabi gangs, and criticizes both countries for not cooperating and working together to address the issue.
4.4 The speaker suggests that the tensions between India and Canada may be due to gang wars, with evidence including a letter from Malik to Modi, a lawsuit between the Malik and ninja camps, interviews and speeches trashing each other, and the possibility that the Indian government may have had knowledge or involvement, and urges Trudeau and his government to reveal their evidence.
4.5 No Indian would be unhappy about the death of a spy, and it is common knowledge that countries spy on each other.
4.6 Introduce the idea of blended motivations and capturing conversations to address tensions between India and Canada.
46:46 🔥 Canadian politicians need to address the issue of extremism and terrorism glorification, as well as the targeting of Hindus in Canada, while also acknowledging the presence of a terror gangster network linked to Canada.
5.1 The Canadians initially supported the Khalistani movement but changed their stance after learning about its association with terrorism.
5.2 The Gurdwara posters calling for the assassination of Indian diplomats were taken down due to the increased attention and blowback, and there is now a fresh threat from Pannu targeting Canadian Hindus and the upcoming ICC Cricket World Cup match.
5.3 The speaker discusses the issue of a man with Canadian citizenship who is able to freely operate in both Canada and America, highlighting the problem of ignorance and disinformation among people who are not interested or impacted by his activities.
5.4 The speaker discusses the extremist videos produced by Panoon, which praise suicide bombers and assassins, burn the Indian flag, and encourage Sikhs to desert the Indian army and fight for China, highlighting the daily propaganda spread by Panoon.
5.5 Canadian politicians remain silent and fail to condemn activities glorifying terrorists, despite the freedom of speech argument, while also failing to speak out against attacks on Hindus in Canada.
5.6 The speaker discusses the gang angle in the India-Canada tensions, providing evidence of a terror gangster network linked to Canada, and emphasizes the need for solutions to the issue.
56:36 🤝 India and Canada should focus on resolving tensions peacefully, acknowledging failures, taking action against criminals, and strengthening laws against terrorism to improve relations between the two countries.
6.1 India and Canada should not escalate tensions by making false allegations and instead focus on resolving the issue peacefully as they are not enemies but rather friendly nations.
6.2 Canada’s treatment of the Kalasan file has been a national disgrace, and in order to improve relations with India, Canada should acknowledge their failures, take action against criminals wanted by India, strengthen laws against terrorism, and show that they understand the seriousness of the situation.
6.3 India and Canada need to acknowledge each other’s efforts and understand that no Western democracy will abolish freedom of speech, but India needs to be more sophisticated in their approach and exclude incitement of violence, leading to better relations between the two countries.
6.4 Burning the Indian flag is allowed under Canada and America’s freedom laws, but India has the right to cancel the overseas citizenship of anyone who engages in such activities.
6.5 Indian state will use a law to confiscate properties of Jets, who are the landlords of India, and target their ocis, so they should not cry about it and should respect India’s right to protect its sovereignty.
6.6 The Indian government has been criticized for being too soft on the Khalistanis, but now they have warned that they will take action against those who protest, particularly Punjabis, who have a strong attachment to their land.
01:05:54 🌍 The tensions between India and Canada are discussed, with a focus on the need for caution and addressing freedom of speech, as well as the growing problem of extremist aggression facilitated by the internet in various countries.
7.1 The speaker discusses the tensions between India and Canada, expressing the need for caution and addressing the issue of freedom of speech.
7.2 Other countries, like Britain, have addressed the issue of freedom of speech and have taken measures to combat extremism, as seen in the case of Prime Minister Rishi Sinat, who became a hero for his stance against Khalistani extremism, and a report in Britain highlighted the bullying and intimidation faced by mainstream Sikhs by extremists pushing their own agenda.
7.3 Palestinian and extremist aggression facilitated by the internet is a growing problem in various countries, including Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, and it is time for a pushback.
7.4 Sensible people should come up with their own ideas if they don’t like ours, as it saddens the speaker to see the decline in Indo-Canadian government relations, despite believing that Canada is a nice country where both Canadians and Indians could benefit from a trade deal.
7.5 If Indian students in Canada are feeling tense, they can contact the speaker via email and he will forward their emails to Hindu or Indian groups in Canada for support.
7.6 Canada needs to take responsibility for the Punjabi gang war happening within its borders and address the issue instead of blaming India, as the Canadian government’s lack of action and questionable standards undermine their credibility.
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Q1: What was the controversy surrounding Justin Trudeau’s statement in the House of Commons?
A1: The controversy surrounding Justin Trudeau’s statement in the House of Commons arose from his remarks regarding recent events in Canada. The statement led to discussions and debate among the public. Canadian journalist Terry Mileski found Trudeau’s statement absurd and unbelievable, further adding to the controversy.
Q2: Is there any evidence to support the involvement of the Indian government in a contract killing in Surrey?
A2: Currently, there is no concrete evidence to support the involvement of the Indian government in a contract killing in Surrey. While Surrey has experienced instances of organized crime and contract killings in the past, the idea of the Indian government carrying out an extrajudicial murder operation seems highly unlikely. The risk of tarnishing the Indian government’s reputation would be too high. It is important to note that the identity and motive of the alleged killer, known as Ninja, remain unknown at this time.
Q3: What is the issue with the glorification of terrorism and propaganda in Canada?
A3: One of the issues discussed in the video is the glorification of terrorism and propaganda within certain groups in Canada. It is highlighted that there is a feeling among some Canadians that terrorism in Khalistan is not their problem. However, there have been instances where individuals engaged in pro-terrorist propaganda, such as a Temple president giving a speech praising the assassination of public officials. Additionally, there is mention of a diorama replicating the celebration of the assassination of Indira Gandhi. Such actions are seen as promoting violence and terrorism.
Q4: Why has Canada been reluctant to extradite individuals to India?
A4: Canada’s reluctance to extradite individuals to India stems from concerns about human rights abuses in Indian prisons. The video mentions that a standing committee of Canada’s parliament called for the country to withdraw from extradition treaties with several countries, including India. There is also fear of backlash from the organized and well-funded Khalistani Lobby in Canada. Furthermore, extradition requests from Indian state police forces often rely heavily on statements made by accused individuals in custody. Concerns regarding the recording of testimony and alleged abuses in Indian prisons, particularly in Punjab, have contributed to Canada’s hesitation in returning individuals to India.
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